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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Doyle Says Climate Plan Will Subsidize Polluters For &#8216;Ten To Fifteen Years&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: kt</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153200</link>
		<dc:creator>kt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tk, you heretic!  How dare you suggest that the earth is &quot;trillions&quot; of years old?!  You know from the Bible that God created it some 5-6 thousand years ago!


PS - The &quot;science&quot; you&#039;re looking at doesn&#039;t really say &quot;trillions&quot;, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tk, you heretic!  How dare you suggest that the earth is &#8220;trillions&#8221; of years old?!  You know from the Bible that God created it some 5-6 thousand years ago!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; The &#8220;science&#8221; you&#8217;re looking at doesn&#8217;t really say &#8220;trillions&#8221;, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153195</link>
		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Government is cruel because it promotes the fallacy of Global warming, which preys on the fears of others, spreads misery, creates poverty, and ensures that we are all dependent on the rich and powerful.

It promotes the fallacy of global warming, despite the scientific evidence to the contrary; trillions of years of history that show continues abrupt climate changes, and the reality of having to extinguish the sun in order to actually eliminate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Government is cruel because it promotes the fallacy of Global warming, which preys on the fears of others, spreads misery, creates poverty, and ensures that we are all dependent on the rich and powerful.</p>
<p>It promotes the fallacy of global warming, despite the scientific evidence to the contrary; trillions of years of history that show continues abrupt climate changes, and the reality of having to extinguish the sun in order to actually eliminate it.</p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153193</link>
		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big government is cruel, because it does not really care about the environment but uses the issue to further its power.  The more restrictive the government is, the more polluted the environment becomes.  All one needs to do is look around the world or in pro big government cities in order to see this.

If you truly want to have a clean environment, you must reduce the role of government, government restrictions, increase personal freedom, economic property, and property rights.  People want to live in a clean environment; it is big government that does not care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big government is cruel, because it does not really care about the environment but uses the issue to further its power.  The more restrictive the government is, the more polluted the environment becomes.  All one needs to do is look around the world or in pro big government cities in order to see this.</p>
<p>If you truly want to have a clean environment, you must reduce the role of government, government restrictions, increase personal freedom, economic property, and property rights.  People want to live in a clean environment; it is big government that does not care.</p>
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		<title>By: Catseye</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153173</link>
		<dc:creator>Catseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robrob is thinking about the rates California paid under Enron. How did _that_ work out for you, fool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robrob is thinking about the rates California paid under Enron. How did _that_ work out for you, fool?</p>
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		<title>By: afisher</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153143</link>
		<dc:creator>afisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is kicking the can down the road to the next generation, where the cost will be even greater.  You have to start somewhere and even using the GOP&#039;s bad math, the cost is worth the effort.  The use of the GOP Scary Math to frighten legislator&#039;s who should know better is an abomination.  If you give away the Cap / Trade permits, that is 10-20 more years for the oil industry to do nothing more than pump / buy oil.  Only when there is an incentive to change (and a lower profit is an incentive) will any of these polluting industries spend money.

Giving these permits away for free is like doing nothing and Congress should be embarrassed by their weak-knee performance.  They may be financed by big money donors, but they retain their office by we little voters...and we are watching very closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kicking the can down the road to the next generation, where the cost will be even greater.  You have to start somewhere and even using the GOP&#8217;s bad math, the cost is worth the effort.  The use of the GOP Scary Math to frighten legislator&#8217;s who should know better is an abomination.  If you give away the Cap / Trade permits, that is 10-20 more years for the oil industry to do nothing more than pump / buy oil.  Only when there is an incentive to change (and a lower profit is an incentive) will any of these polluting industries spend money.</p>
<p>Giving these permits away for free is like doing nothing and Congress should be embarrassed by their weak-knee performance.  They may be financed by big money donors, but they retain their office by we little voters&#8230;and we are watching very closely.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/07/doyle-polluter-giveaway/comment-page-1/#comment-153141</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California electric bills are actually &lt;a href=&#039;http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:jhpcqZRwpl0J:www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/esr/table5.xls&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;below the national average&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California electric bills are actually <a href='http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:jhpcqZRwpl0J:www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/esr/table5.xls' rel="nofollow">below the national average</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, try again.</p>
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		<title>By: RobRob61</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobRob61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you leftist loons and Obamanoids are ready to pay California size electric bills, because that&#039;s exactly what we are all going to get if Obama&#039;s Cap and Trade bill goes thru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you leftist loons and Obamanoids are ready to pay California size electric bills, because that&#8217;s exactly what we are all going to get if Obama&#8217;s Cap and Trade bill goes thru.</p>
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