Comments on: Deconstructing Frank Luntz’s Obstructionist Health Care Reform Memo

By: mlp-stl

mlp-stl — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:30:39 +0000

I’m shocked, simply shocked (overheard at Rick’s joint.)

I hope Jon Stewart sees this document and has a chance to wave it in the face of some of the obstructo-reformers.

By: JoshuaB

JoshuaB — Thu, 07 May 2009 15:39:37 +0000

HEY LUNTZ – YOU’RE A PUTZ. EVERYONE KNOWS MICK JAGGER NEVER SANG “TIME IS ON YOUR SIDE”, HE SANG “TIME IS ON MY SIDE”. THE GUY WRITES LIKE A 10-YEAR-OLD.

By: garyro

garyro — Thu, 07 May 2009 12:21:51 +0000

Luntz is a master and his talking points are something to take seriously if you are an opponent of whatever he intends to attack. When the GOP follows his advice, they win much of the time and this trend has been for over a decade.

I am an supporter of HR676 and I am going to take time today to inform everyone I know whom supports single payer health care the text of this latest Luntz masterpiece. Some of Luntz’s observations and verbage are excellent attack points for anyone wishing to delay or obstruct healthcare reform.

This and the Ronald Regan’s speech of dangers of socialistic medicine (AMA paid for this) attack 50 years ago will hit home with some Americans whom do not know details of alternatives.

By: Snowman

Snowman — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:32:02 +0000

if the dynamic becomes ‘President Obama is on the side of reform and Republicans are against it,’ then the battle is lost

It has been pretty easy up to now to label the republic party as the Party of No. So let’s get to it on health care.

This fine man (snark) has laid out our simple one sentence game plan. Thank you!

By: calfacon

calfacon — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:27:19 +0000

stateofthedivision Says:
Luntz

Lying
Unethical
Nutjob
Tea Bagger with
Zero Credibility

Brilliant and right on.

They have no morals, no ethics, no shame. Greed for postion, power and money; nothing else.

By: stateofthedivision

stateofthedivision — Wed, 06 May 2009 23:12:29 +0000

Luntz

Lying
Unethical
Nutjob
Tea Bagger with
Zero Credibility

By: Ken in MN

Ken in MN — Wed, 06 May 2009 19:44:26 +0000

P.S. If it were up to me, I’d do Single Payer tomorrow. Unfortunately, there are far too many DEMOCRATS owned by the insurance industry…

By: Ken in MN

Ken in MN — Wed, 06 May 2009 19:42:51 +0000

@ ron:

The insurance model only works if you expand the risk pool to the maximum number of members. Our system has deliberately excluded 50 million people, needlessly shrinking the risk pool and raising the cost for everyone in it. Competition with a PUBLIC PLAN similar to Medicare (with 3% overhead) WILL lead to lower cost, because it will either force private insurance companies (with 25 – 30% overhead) to reform their business practices, or go the way of the GOPosaur. It really is a back-door way to Single Payer, with the added benefit of inovation by companies that figure out a way to survive and bring real value to the system…

By: ron

ron — Wed, 06 May 2009 18:29:01 +0000

“So it’s up to the administration to define health care reform as a way to lower health care costs through competition, expand coverage to all Americans and give everyone a choice of health care providers and health insurers.”

Sorry Igor, but this is bullshit.
The proper stance is: “It is immoral to deny any American proper health care and the obviously best way to do that is to enroll all Americans in Medicare tomorrow.”
Competition hasn’t lowered health care costs, and insurance works best with a single payer.