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	<title>Comments on: Washington Post Defends George Will: The Editorial Page &#8216;Checks Facts To The Fullest Extent Possible&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: John A. Jauregui</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-124949</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Jauregui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA&#039;s James Hansen and the entire environmental movement, politicians included, have completely lost touch with objective reality.  This is why I have stopped all donations to environmental and political groups.  I have asked them to permanently remove me from their database of donors.  All my donations now go to local charities within one day&#039;s walk (20 miles) of my front door.  My independent review of scientific papers reveals nothing has done more to &quot;GREEN&quot; the planet over the last century than elevated levels of CO2 together with moderate sun-driven warming.  As a matter of fact commercial greenhouse operators invest heavily to install CO2 generators in their greenhouses to dramatically improve productivity.  Doubling CO2 levels increases plant growth rates by 33 percent.  And this process has been happening around the world for decades.  Welcome to &quot;1984&quot;.  Why are environmentalists and their political poodles so threatened by this rare gift of nature that they are quite willing to torpedo it with draconian tax legislation and a willingness to jail anyone disagreeing with their propaganda?  I&#039;m not helping this totalitarian activity with my donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA&#8217;s James Hansen and the entire environmental movement, politicians included, have completely lost touch with objective reality.  This is why I have stopped all donations to environmental and political groups.  I have asked them to permanently remove me from their database of donors.  All my donations now go to local charities within one day&#8217;s walk (20 miles) of my front door.  My independent review of scientific papers reveals nothing has done more to &#8220;GREEN&#8221; the planet over the last century than elevated levels of CO2 together with moderate sun-driven warming.  As a matter of fact commercial greenhouse operators invest heavily to install CO2 generators in their greenhouses to dramatically improve productivity.  Doubling CO2 levels increases plant growth rates by 33 percent.  And this process has been happening around the world for decades.  Welcome to &#8220;1984&#8243;.  Why are environmentalists and their political poodles so threatened by this rare gift of nature that they are quite willing to torpedo it with draconian tax legislation and a willingness to jail anyone disagreeing with their propaganda?  I&#8217;m not helping this totalitarian activity with my donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Backlink Builder</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-120819</link>
		<dc:creator>Backlink Builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things never seem to change</description>
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		<title>By: Reel$$</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-117707</link>
		<dc:creator>Reel$$</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Evidence supports George Will&#039;s Cooling column.&lt;/strong&gt;

The following data taken from NOAA datasets is further confirmation that the statement made by George Will in his Feb 15th column is correct with respect to global sea ice extent.

Dec, 79 SH sea ice extent - 10.4 M km^2
Dec, 79 NH sea ice extent - 13.5 M km^2
Total Dec, 79 extent - 23.9 M km^2

Dec, 08 SH sea ice extent - 12.2 M km^2
Dec, 08 NH sea ice extent - 12.5 M km^2
Total Dec, 08 extent - 24.7 M km^2

An increase of .8 M km^2 from December 1979 to December 2008.  An area larger than the State of Texas.

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_197912_extn.png

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_197912_extn.png

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_200812_extn.png

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_200812_extn.png

credit to: Bill Illis, Watts Up With That science site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Evidence supports George Will&#8217;s Cooling column.</strong></p>
<p>The following data taken from NOAA datasets is further confirmation that the statement made by George Will in his Feb 15th column is correct with respect to global sea ice extent.</p>
<p>Dec, 79 SH sea ice extent &#8211; 10.4 M km^2<br />
Dec, 79 NH sea ice extent &#8211; 13.5 M km^2<br />
Total Dec, 79 extent &#8211; 23.9 M km^2</p>
<p>Dec, 08 SH sea ice extent &#8211; 12.2 M km^2<br />
Dec, 08 NH sea ice extent &#8211; 12.5 M km^2<br />
Total Dec, 08 extent &#8211; 24.7 M km^2</p>
<p>An increase of .8 M km^2 from December 1979 to December 2008.  An area larger than the State of Texas.</p>
<p><a href="ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_197912_extn.png" rel="nofollow">ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_197912_extn.png</a></p>
<p><a href="ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_197912_extn.png" rel="nofollow">ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_197912_extn.png</a></p>
<p><a href="ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_200812_extn.png" rel="nofollow">ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/S_200812_extn.png</a></p>
<p><a href="ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_200812_extn.png" rel="nofollow">ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Dec/N_200812_extn.png</a></p>
<p>credit to: Bill Illis, Watts Up With That science site.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Mathieson</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-115707</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Mathieson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up, Will.  If Republicans still claim membership to the flat earth society we may finally be free of them, except in four or five Southern states.  Goody!

Just remember they wanted our Social Security invested individualy - they wanted to close the geophysical studies of the government -  they put a war off budget - and they live to suppress the vote.  

Barbara Mathieson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it up, Will.  If Republicans still claim membership to the flat earth society we may finally be free of them, except in four or five Southern states.  Goody!</p>
<p>Just remember they wanted our Social Security invested individualy &#8211; they wanted to close the geophysical studies of the government &#8211;  they put a war off budget &#8211; and they live to suppress the vote.  </p>
<p>Barbara Mathieson</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Lightning</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-115693</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, George Will is anticipating a career change to that of a right wing media entertainer and is experimenting with controlled substances  to prepare his mind for taking over Rush Limbaugh&#039;s job. George has a special talent for sounding intellectual even while abandoning logic and suffering from amnesia. The departure of his hero Dick Chaney from national leadership has damaged him emotionally as well and only prime quality medical care can rescue George Will from serious health consequences.  Pray for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, George Will is anticipating a career change to that of a right wing media entertainer and is experimenting with controlled substances  to prepare his mind for taking over Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s job. George has a special talent for sounding intellectual even while abandoning logic and suffering from amnesia. The departure of his hero Dick Chaney from national leadership has damaged him emotionally as well and only prime quality medical care can rescue George Will from serious health consequences.  Pray for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-113153</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least there&#039;s &lt;em&gt;one&lt;/em&gt; editor at the Post who takes responsibility for what he prints. The comparison between Alexander/Shearer and Tom Shroder is instructive:

http://justweirdstuff.blogspot.com/2009/02/tale-of-two-editors.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least there&#8217;s <em>one</em> editor at the Post who takes responsibility for what he prints. The comparison between Alexander/Shearer and Tom Shroder is instructive:</p>
<p><a href="http://justweirdstuff.blogspot.com/2009/02/tale-of-two-editors.html" rel="nofollow">http://justweirdstuff.blogspot.com/2009/02/tale-of-two-editors.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: boredwell</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-103694</link>
		<dc:creator>boredwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being an indefatigable reader, I&#039;ve learned that one must constantly challenge statements made and facts purported as &quot;facts&quot; in any given article. Conscientious fact checking often results in more conflicting facts thereby prompting further inquiries to corroborate their facts. This can become a fulltime research job for it requires discipline, patience and, of course, time. The expenditure of all three often leads to more, rather than less, confusion. 

Artic Science Summit Week begins in Bergen Norway March 24. It is most likely that the latest data collected by scientists conducting global warming experiments will be presented, discussed and further analyzed by the world&#039;s top environmental experts. This may, in fact, result in George Will&#039;s claims-and those who now dispute them-becoming moot. 
Vigiliance is an exhausting business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an indefatigable reader, I&#8217;ve learned that one must constantly challenge statements made and facts purported as &#8220;facts&#8221; in any given article. Conscientious fact checking often results in more conflicting facts thereby prompting further inquiries to corroborate their facts. This can become a fulltime research job for it requires discipline, patience and, of course, time. The expenditure of all three often leads to more, rather than less, confusion. </p>
<p>Artic Science Summit Week begins in Bergen Norway March 24. It is most likely that the latest data collected by scientists conducting global warming experiments will be presented, discussed and further analyzed by the world&#8217;s top environmental experts. This may, in fact, result in George Will&#8217;s claims-and those who now dispute them-becoming moot.<br />
Vigiliance is an exhausting business.</p>
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		<title>By: A Siegel</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-103140</link>
		<dc:creator>A Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry

What an absurdity.  Will started a paragraph of cited sentence fragment quotations with the following:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the 1970s, “a major cooling of the planet” was “widely considered inevitable” because it was “well established” that the Northern Hemisphere’s climate “has been getting cooler since about 1950&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is my error to read that Will is striving to suggest a consensus?

More egregiously, in this, is that Will selectively chose words from those sources, to misrepresent what was within those articles.

I write: &quot;It is not very hot today&quot;. Will says that Siegel wrote &quot;hot today&quot;. That would be a true fact that I typed those words even if the quotation would be utterly out of context and a misrepresentation. That is the level of quality of much of Will&#039;s citations related to Global Cooling (and otherwise).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry</p>
<p>What an absurdity.  Will started a paragraph of cited sentence fragment quotations with the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the 1970s, “a major cooling of the planet” was “widely considered inevitable” because it was “well established” that the Northern Hemisphere’s climate “has been getting cooler since about 1950&#8243;</p></blockquote>
<p>It is my error to read that Will is striving to suggest a consensus?</p>
<p>More egregiously, in this, is that Will selectively chose words from those sources, to misrepresent what was within those articles.</p>
<p>I write: &#8220;It is not very hot today&#8221;. Will says that Siegel wrote &#8220;hot today&#8221;. That would be a true fact that I typed those words even if the quotation would be utterly out of context and a misrepresentation. That is the level of quality of much of Will&#8217;s citations related to Global Cooling (and otherwise).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Besse</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-102946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Besse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Will should stick to right wing journalism and leave science to peer-reviewed, research based, published scientists.  His ignorance is laughable were it not for the gravity and consequences of which he obviously knows so little about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Will should stick to right wing journalism and leave science to peer-reviewed, research based, published scientists.  His ignorance is laughable were it not for the gravity and consequences of which he obviously knows so little about.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-102883</link>
		<dc:creator>ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will Says:

Mr Will was comparing the END OF 2008 with the END OF 1979. If you check CT’s website, you will see that his statement is accurate. In fact, due to a malfunction of the satellite instrumentation, the data reported on CT has been underreporting sea ice extent for over a month.
February 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a&gt;A Wrinkle In Ice (or Not)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I got a prompt response from Bill Chapman, a University of Illinois climate scientist:

    “It’s refreshing to have someone ask about the data before they write about it.”

Just pause to consider that. After all this kerfuffule–involving a nationally syndicated columnist, the assistants to that columnist, the editors at the columnist’s syndication service, the editors at the Washington Post editorial page, and the Post’s ombudsman–Chapman was refreshed that someone bothered to contact him about his research before writing about it. What a concept. For me, this whole affair has been about the value of fact-checking science, and Chapman’s reply shows just how little checking was carried out by the Post and company.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing there for George Will or his apologists.

Sorry, Will.
~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Will Says:</p>
<p>Mr Will was comparing the END OF 2008 with the END OF 1979. If you check CT’s website, you will see that his statement is accurate. In fact, due to a malfunction of the satellite instrumentation, the data reported on CT has been underreporting sea ice extent for over a month.<br />
February 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
</p></blockquote>
<p><a>A Wrinkle In Ice (or Not)</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I got a prompt response from Bill Chapman, a University of Illinois climate scientist:</p>
<p>    “It’s refreshing to have someone ask about the data before they write about it.”</p>
<p>Just pause to consider that. After all this kerfuffule–involving a nationally syndicated columnist, the assistants to that columnist, the editors at the columnist’s syndication service, the editors at the Washington Post editorial page, and the Post’s ombudsman–Chapman was refreshed that someone bothered to contact him about his research before writing about it. What a concept. For me, this whole affair has been about the value of fact-checking science, and Chapman’s reply shows just how little checking was carried out by the Post and company.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing there for George Will or his apologists.</p>
<p>Sorry, Will.<br />
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-94282</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>siegel,

&lt;i&gt;The egregious element, which too many are glossing over, is how Will quoted item after item out of context to create the false impression of global cooling have been some form of ‘consensus’ scientific opinion. &lt;/i&gt;

Will said nothing about a consensus. He quoted from a series of news reports from the 70s reporting scientific findings of cooling.  If you falsely inferred a claim of consensus from those quotes, that&#039;s your problem, not Will&#039;s.   And yammering on about &quot;context&quot; is equally vacuous.  You&#039;d have to show that the context materially changes the meaning of the quoted text for your complaint to have merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>siegel,</p>
<p><i>The egregious element, which too many are glossing over, is how Will quoted item after item out of context to create the false impression of global cooling have been some form of ‘consensus’ scientific opinion. </i></p>
<p>Will said nothing about a consensus. He quoted from a series of news reports from the 70s reporting scientific findings of cooling.  If you falsely inferred a claim of consensus from those quotes, that&#8217;s your problem, not Will&#8217;s.   And yammering on about &#8220;context&#8221; is equally vacuous.  You&#8217;d have to show that the context materially changes the meaning of the quoted text for your complaint to have merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-91459</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Will was comparing the END OF 2008 with the END OF 1979. If you check CT&#039;s website, you will see that his statement is accurate.  In fact, due to a malfunction of the satellite instrumentation, the data reported on CT has been underreporting sea ice extent for over a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Will was comparing the END OF 2008 with the END OF 1979. If you check CT&#8217;s website, you will see that his statement is accurate.  In fact, due to a malfunction of the satellite instrumentation, the data reported on CT has been underreporting sea ice extent for over a month.</p>
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		<title>By: A Siegel</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-84056</link>
		<dc:creator>A Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise, excellent post / discussion. Thank you for seekign out comment from the Post.

We must, however, not lose track of two things:

1.  Will&#039;s column did not have one error, but a serious of explicit twisting of material into false representation. Whether we are talking ice, temperature records, etc, there is no truth in Will&#039;s OPED.  The egregious element, which too many are glossing over, is how Will quoted item after item out of context to create the false impression of global cooling have been some form of &#039;consensus&#039; scientific opinion. While he did, in many cases, cherry pick articles, he also cherry-picked sentences from the articles to then portray the articles 180 degrees out from their actual conclusions.

2.  The Will piece is far from isolated. Time after time, the Washington Post has given space to global warming skeptics and deniers (Krauthammer, Will, Samuelson, Lomborg, etc ...) without, it seems, laying any serious evidentary standard to their deceptive pieces. And, when called to task for the dishonesty on their pages, the Post responds with weak corrections which few read, if they react in public at all.  See: http://getenergysmartnow.com/2009/02/15/washpost-complicit-in-disformation-or-explicit-collaboration/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise, excellent post / discussion. Thank you for seekign out comment from the Post.</p>
<p>We must, however, not lose track of two things:</p>
<p>1.  Will&#8217;s column did not have one error, but a serious of explicit twisting of material into false representation. Whether we are talking ice, temperature records, etc, there is no truth in Will&#8217;s OPED.  The egregious element, which too many are glossing over, is how Will quoted item after item out of context to create the false impression of global cooling have been some form of &#8216;consensus&#8217; scientific opinion. While he did, in many cases, cherry pick articles, he also cherry-picked sentences from the articles to then portray the articles 180 degrees out from their actual conclusions.</p>
<p>2.  The Will piece is far from isolated. Time after time, the Washington Post has given space to global warming skeptics and deniers (Krauthammer, Will, Samuelson, Lomborg, etc &#8230;) without, it seems, laying any serious evidentary standard to their deceptive pieces. And, when called to task for the dishonesty on their pages, the Post responds with weak corrections which few read, if they react in public at all.  See: <a href="http://getenergysmartnow.com/2009/02/15/washpost-complicit-in-disformation-or-explicit-collaboration/" rel="nofollow">http://getenergysmartnow.com/2009/02/15/washpost-complicit-in-disformation-or-explicit-collaboration/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Otto Krider</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-80366</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Otto Krider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve rarely seen such clear, deliberative effort given to being intellectually lazy as evidenced by the Post, here. It&#039;s hard work keeping yourself in the dark about such matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve rarely seen such clear, deliberative effort given to being intellectually lazy as evidenced by the Post, here. It&#8217;s hard work keeping yourself in the dark about such matters.</p>
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		<title>By: april glaspie</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-80254</link>
		<dc:creator>april glaspie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damned MSM needs to learn some editing tricks from the meme-makers. You&#039;d never get this sort of misinformation from the internet professionals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damned MSM needs to learn some editing tricks from the meme-makers. You&#8217;d never get this sort of misinformation from the internet professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: JNagarya</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-80153</link>
		<dc:creator>JNagarya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Wang Says: 

Can’t the WP at least publish the arctic climate center’s rebuttal of Will’s false claims?
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Of course not: that would espose Will for the entitled politcal hack he is, and it might get him disinvited to Washington Post editorial coffee clatches and martini lunches. 

The fact is that Will doesn&#039;t employ fact-checkers -- he doesn&#039;t them: first, because he&#039;s a liar to begin with, and doesn&#039;t intend to be corrected; and second, because he knows that the editors who publish his shrill shilling will cover for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Wang Says: </p>
<p>Can’t the WP at least publish the arctic climate center’s rebuttal of Will’s false claims?<br />
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<p>Of course not: that would espose Will for the entitled politcal hack he is, and it might get him disinvited to Washington Post editorial coffee clatches and martini lunches. </p>
<p>The fact is that Will doesn&#8217;t employ fact-checkers &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t them: first, because he&#8217;s a liar to begin with, and doesn&#8217;t intend to be corrected; and second, because he knows that the editors who publish his shrill shilling will cover for him.</p>
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		<title>By: JNagarya</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-80131</link>
		<dc:creator>JNagarya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At best, there is intellectual laziness.  When I challenged a right-winger&#039;s distortions and misstatements (read: lies) in an &quot;LA Times&quot; EDITORIAL, and demanded fact-checking and correction, the effort went round in circles several times, with the editorial page editor claiming the distortions and misstatements were the writer&#039;s &quot;opinion&quot;.

By contrast, the objective facts were reported by the actual journalistic media, and were other than the editorialist&#039;s relatively common RIGHT-wing attacks on Clinton. 

In view of the lousy &quot;fact-checking&quot; of the &quot;news&quot; section, the &quot;Washington Post&quot; employs the same standard intellectual laziness when the concern is editorials: outright lies, rebutable distortions are considered &quot;opinion,&quot; and will not be corrected.

Then, when caught being thus lazy, they will do all they can to reject the criticism and correction so as not to be exposed for what they are: intellectually lazy, careless, and wrong. 

And, incapable of critical/ethical thinking in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best, there is intellectual laziness.  When I challenged a right-winger&#8217;s distortions and misstatements (read: lies) in an &#8220;LA Times&#8221; EDITORIAL, and demanded fact-checking and correction, the effort went round in circles several times, with the editorial page editor claiming the distortions and misstatements were the writer&#8217;s &#8220;opinion&#8221;.</p>
<p>By contrast, the objective facts were reported by the actual journalistic media, and were other than the editorialist&#8217;s relatively common RIGHT-wing attacks on Clinton. </p>
<p>In view of the lousy &#8220;fact-checking&#8221; of the &#8220;news&#8221; section, the &#8220;Washington Post&#8221; employs the same standard intellectual laziness when the concern is editorials: outright lies, rebutable distortions are considered &#8220;opinion,&#8221; and will not be corrected.</p>
<p>Then, when caught being thus lazy, they will do all they can to reject the criticism and correction so as not to be exposed for what they are: intellectually lazy, careless, and wrong. </p>
<p>And, incapable of critical/ethical thinking in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Otto Krider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan Otto Krider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, Will hired fact-checkers who wouldn&#039;t do their job, and to give the Post editors plausible deniability when called to account for the fabrications they&#039;re running. The Post editor would look &quot;liberal&quot; if he didn&#039;t run Will&#039;s column, so he likes having Will hire lackey&#039;s to pawn off responsibility to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, Will hired fact-checkers who wouldn&#8217;t do their job, and to give the Post editors plausible deniability when called to account for the fabrications they&#8217;re running. The Post editor would look &#8220;liberal&#8221; if he didn&#8217;t run Will&#8217;s column, so he likes having Will hire lackey&#8217;s to pawn off responsibility to.</p>
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		<title>By: colinjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>colinjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G. Will-a-ker&#039;s article is not only fact-free, but his arguments are logic-free. It&#039;s because of articles like his that cause climate change to NOT be ranked higher in current public opinion polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G. Will-a-ker&#8217;s article is not only fact-free, but his arguments are logic-free. It&#8217;s because of articles like his that cause climate change to NOT be ranked higher in current public opinion polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/19/george-will-editing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-78332</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worthwhile noting that the Post&#039;s responses include only the (rather feeble) justification for the sea ice level claim--where are the justifications for the rest of the trivially disproved hokum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worthwhile noting that the Post&#8217;s responses include only the (rather feeble) justification for the sea ice level claim&#8211;where are the justifications for the rest of the trivially disproved hokum?</p>
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