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	<title>Comments on: America Realizes: &#8216;Coal Makes No Sense In This Day And Age&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/coal-isnt-clean/comment-page-1/#comment-25992</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &quot;professorj&quot;, maybe you can think for us then, and tell us why the majority of the science is wrong, and why the world&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.logicalscience.com/consensus/consensus.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;major scientific academies etc&lt;/a&gt; disagree with you. A massive worldwide conspiracy? Have yet to see any credible evidence of that.

As for the rest, I recall reading that electric transit is so much more efficient that even power from coal, sent over an efficient grid, could compare favorably to gasoline in a standard car. But we need to fully exploit all of the most cost effective alternatives, including maximized efficiency, baseload solar thermal, wind, geothermal, tidal etc. Even the latest nuclear technology where it&#039;s necessary to replace conventional coal. And contrary to what TBP says, we should be using natural gas to help phase out coal in the interim, not using it to power internal combustion vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8220;professorj&#8221;, maybe you can think for us then, and tell us why the majority of the science is wrong, and why the world&#8217;s <a href="http://www.logicalscience.com/consensus/consensus.htm" rel="nofollow">major scientific academies etc</a> disagree with you. A massive worldwide conspiracy? Have yet to see any credible evidence of that.</p>
<p>As for the rest, I recall reading that electric transit is so much more efficient that even power from coal, sent over an efficient grid, could compare favorably to gasoline in a standard car. But we need to fully exploit all of the most cost effective alternatives, including maximized efficiency, baseload solar thermal, wind, geothermal, tidal etc. Even the latest nuclear technology where it&#8217;s necessary to replace conventional coal. And contrary to what TBP says, we should be using natural gas to help phase out coal in the interim, not using it to power internal combustion vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: professorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>professorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jps

You completly ignore the point of my post.  I am aware of the worlds resources but if you can give me a reply to my post that makes sense then I will consider it.  Without the coal industry millions of people would be sitting at home in the dark and freezing.  There are no viable substitutes for coal powered energy except Nuke Power and this government won&#039;t allow the development of that energy resource.  When we come up with an aternative then I would more than happy to switch to it.  As far as OPEC is concerned we can reduce the oil dependency from OPEC if the environmentalist get out of the way and Congress would shut up.  Be that as it may, we ARE talking COAL here aren&#039;t we?

OBTW Global warming is a hoax forced on dumb people who can&#039;t think for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jps</p>
<p>You completly ignore the point of my post.  I am aware of the worlds resources but if you can give me a reply to my post that makes sense then I will consider it.  Without the coal industry millions of people would be sitting at home in the dark and freezing.  There are no viable substitutes for coal powered energy except Nuke Power and this government won&#8217;t allow the development of that energy resource.  When we come up with an aternative then I would more than happy to switch to it.  As far as OPEC is concerned we can reduce the oil dependency from OPEC if the environmentalist get out of the way and Congress would shut up.  Be that as it may, we ARE talking COAL here aren&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>OBTW Global warming is a hoax forced on dumb people who can&#8217;t think for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: jps</title>
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		<dc:creator>jps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anders, would you rather be paying for cleaner and cleaner electricity, or paying OPEC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anders, would you rather be paying for cleaner and cleaner electricity, or paying OPEC?</p>
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		<title>By: jps</title>
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		<dc:creator>jps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professorj, there are other forms of power, and they are fungible.  Do you know how many times more iron China mines than the U.S. at present?  Do you approve of us sending resources overseas for things we have here already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professorj, there are other forms of power, and they are fungible.  Do you know how many times more iron China mines than the U.S. at present?  Do you approve of us sending resources overseas for things we have here already?</p>
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		<title>By: professorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>professorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see the steel industry make steel with solar panels and wind power. This is an attempt to destroy our manufacturing base and destroy our way of life by the environmentalists.  Obama is part of this.  He said during his campaign that he was going to make the use of coal very expensive to the point that it becomes too expensive to use.  Biden also said he wants to close down all the coal fired energy plants.

Yes this is your Savior Obama at his best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the steel industry make steel with solar panels and wind power. This is an attempt to destroy our manufacturing base and destroy our way of life by the environmentalists.  Obama is part of this.  He said during his campaign that he was going to make the use of coal very expensive to the point that it becomes too expensive to use.  Biden also said he wants to close down all the coal fired energy plants.</p>
<p>Yes this is your Savior Obama at his best.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders Thulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders Thulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coal industry has had a rough few days? Well, sort of. You also have to consider the rather strong move toward plug-in-hybrid adoption. Where does that energy come from? Coal of course. And how can we ease up the strain on the electric grid? Smart grid technology - but that alone has thus far seen wavering support in the Senate, has it not? 

So, more hybrids and fewer dollars for smart grid technology= greater dependence on coal= more coal-fired power plants. 

Sure, we can add lots of wind energy to the grid, but the money for the grid necessary for such an adoption is not enough to make up for the demand on the grid a fully matured plug-in car industry will bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coal industry has had a rough few days? Well, sort of. You also have to consider the rather strong move toward plug-in-hybrid adoption. Where does that energy come from? Coal of course. And how can we ease up the strain on the electric grid? Smart grid technology &#8211; but that alone has thus far seen wavering support in the Senate, has it not? </p>
<p>So, more hybrids and fewer dollars for smart grid technology= greater dependence on coal= more coal-fired power plants. </p>
<p>Sure, we can add lots of wind energy to the grid, but the money for the grid necessary for such an adoption is not enough to make up for the demand on the grid a fully matured plug-in car industry will bring.</p>
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