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	<title>Comments on: Does John Bolton Recognize Palestine&#8217;s &#8216;Right To Exist&#8217;?</title>
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		<title>By: alaskablue</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3638</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskablue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BoltonRules.........America and Israel no longer have any moral authority.  They have lost it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BoltonRules&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;America and Israel no longer have any moral authority.  They have lost it.</p>
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		<title>By: BoltonRules</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>BoltonRules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the terrorist state of Hamas should have the right to exist.  Who are we to impose our moral authority over a state sponsor of terrorism?

But a free democrat state of Israel whould not exist, because rumor has it, evil Jews live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the terrorist state of Hamas should have the right to exist.  Who are we to impose our moral authority over a state sponsor of terrorism?</p>
<p>But a free democrat state of Israel whould not exist, because rumor has it, evil Jews live there.</p>
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		<title>By: David44</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3570</link>
		<dc:creator>David44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probonogeek:

The problem with your analysis of Bolton&#039;s argument is that this isn&#039;t a radical and unconventional new idea.  It&#039;s a boring old idea dating back decades; it is wheeled out by the right wing every time there&#039;s a crisis in the Middle East, and, regardless of its desirability, it&#039;s also considerably less realistic than the two-state solution it&#039;s designed to replace.  (See &lt;a href=&quot;http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/node/14890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/node/14890&lt;/a&gt; for an acute analysis of its problems.)  Its sole merit (if you can call it that) seems to be that it allows Israel to hold onto its illegal settlements while relieving them of the responsibility for the Palestinians.  Which is why, unsurprisingly, none of the parties chiefly concerned - not Jordan, not Egypt, and certainly not the Palestinians - will ever give it the time of day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probonogeek:</p>
<p>The problem with your analysis of Bolton&#8217;s argument is that this isn&#8217;t a radical and unconventional new idea.  It&#8217;s a boring old idea dating back decades; it is wheeled out by the right wing every time there&#8217;s a crisis in the Middle East, and, regardless of its desirability, it&#8217;s also considerably less realistic than the two-state solution it&#8217;s designed to replace.  (See <a href="http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/node/14890" rel="nofollow">http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/node/14890</a> for an acute analysis of its problems.)  Its sole merit (if you can call it that) seems to be that it allows Israel to hold onto its illegal settlements while relieving them of the responsibility for the Palestinians.  Which is why, unsurprisingly, none of the parties chiefly concerned &#8211; not Jordan, not Egypt, and certainly not the Palestinians &#8211; will ever give it the time of day</p>
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		<title>By: palestinereview</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3566</link>
		<dc:creator>palestinereview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Israel has no intention of ever giving Palestinians their freedom.

The only goal of the Zionist occupation is: the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. So far in Gaza, the Zionists have made great progress.

Milk and cookies, anyone?

The Palestine Review
http://palestinereview.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Israel has no intention of ever giving Palestinians their freedom.</p>
<p>The only goal of the Zionist occupation is: the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. So far in Gaza, the Zionists have made great progress.</p>
<p>Milk and cookies, anyone?</p>
<p>The Palestine Review<br />
<a href="http://palestinereview.com" rel="nofollow">http://palestinereview.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanna Nicholson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanna Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who really cares what John Bolton says?  He no longer holds office.  I think it is counterproductive to even give his views
credence by quoting him interminably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who really cares what John Bolton says?  He no longer holds office.  I think it is counterproductive to even give his views<br />
credence by quoting him interminably.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3548</link>
		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should there be a Palestinian state?  There are 22 other Arab countries surrounding Israel, that should be enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should there be a Palestinian state?  There are 22 other Arab countries surrounding Israel, that should be enough.</p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3546</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The West tampers with the Middle East yet again.  Bolton proposes the latest version, which happens to put recalcitrant Palestinian Arabs in countries allied with the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The West tampers with the Middle East yet again.  Bolton proposes the latest version, which happens to put recalcitrant Palestinian Arabs in countries allied with the West.</p>
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		<title>By: probonogeek</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>probonogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading Wonk Room since you guys started up and this is the first article we&#039;re I&#039;ve felt compelled to say... what the heck?

This is a somewhat disingenuous reading of Bolton&#039;s piece. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m no fan of Bolton, but he makes plan that he is an international realist looking for solutions that fit his paradigm. He starts with the claim that the two state approach hasn&#039;t worked, and I think it&#039;s fair to poke all the holes you want in that initial claim, but if you accept it, then I say good for Bolton to at least propose a potential alternative, even if it is an unpopular one. Solutions to international relations problems often are unpopular... in fact, solutions to hard problems are often unpopular, otherwise the problem wouldn&#039;t be hard.

He also does mention Israel in his article, in particular their right to defend themselves against those who have stated their desire to push them into the sea. I think reasonable minds can disagree over how best Israel might go about that defense -- in particular their treatment of Hamas in light of Hamas compared to other groups in the region that &lt;a href=&quot;http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/04/worse-outcomes-than-a-strengthened-hamas/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wonk Room highlighted&lt;/a&gt; last week -- but at least give Bolton the credit he is due.

I don&#039;t consider this proposal any more radical than Biden&#039;s federalism plan for Iraq. Unconventional, sure, but at least it gets the conversation going in a place where the conventional wisdom doesn&#039;t seem to be producing results.

I guess my point here is that if our ideas are better than theirs (and I&#039;m inclined to believe they are), let&#039;s evaluate the ideas based on what they actually said, instead of a characterization where it sounds more like you are making fun of the guy than engaging in serious debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Wonk Room since you guys started up and this is the first article we&#8217;re I&#8217;ve felt compelled to say&#8230; what the heck?</p>
<p>This is a somewhat disingenuous reading of Bolton&#8217;s piece. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m no fan of Bolton, but he makes plan that he is an international realist looking for solutions that fit his paradigm. He starts with the claim that the two state approach hasn&#8217;t worked, and I think it&#8217;s fair to poke all the holes you want in that initial claim, but if you accept it, then I say good for Bolton to at least propose a potential alternative, even if it is an unpopular one. Solutions to international relations problems often are unpopular&#8230; in fact, solutions to hard problems are often unpopular, otherwise the problem wouldn&#8217;t be hard.</p>
<p>He also does mention Israel in his article, in particular their right to defend themselves against those who have stated their desire to push them into the sea. I think reasonable minds can disagree over how best Israel might go about that defense &#8212; in particular their treatment of Hamas in light of Hamas compared to other groups in the region that <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/04/worse-outcomes-than-a-strengthened-hamas/" rel="nofollow">Wonk Room highlighted</a> last week &#8212; but at least give Bolton the credit he is due.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider this proposal any more radical than Biden&#8217;s federalism plan for Iraq. Unconventional, sure, but at least it gets the conversation going in a place where the conventional wisdom doesn&#8217;t seem to be producing results.</p>
<p>I guess my point here is that if our ideas are better than theirs (and I&#8217;m inclined to believe they are), let&#8217;s evaluate the ideas based on what they actually said, instead of a characterization where it sounds more like you are making fun of the guy than engaging in serious debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Palestine Cause</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/bolton-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>Palestine Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am a Palestinian and I really started to change the way I consider things.
None of the Arab world is standing with the Palestine Cause as a real stand, Palestinians are not looking for protests or shoes rising patriots, none of them supported the People of Gaza, they are suffering they are massacred by a huge war Aircrafts and Tank forces by Israel...
So I really don&#039;t see a reason why should others like USA or Europe to support the Palestinians.. They are doing good that they have the UNRWA UNDP USAID all are suppporting and building institutions, providing fuel, food... despite that USA and EUROPE governments are the reason of the Palestinians vagrancy and the Israeli occupation .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am a Palestinian and I really started to change the way I consider things.<br />
None of the Arab world is standing with the Palestine Cause as a real stand, Palestinians are not looking for protests or shoes rising patriots, none of them supported the People of Gaza, they are suffering they are massacred by a huge war Aircrafts and Tank forces by Israel&#8230;<br />
So I really don&#8217;t see a reason why should others like USA or Europe to support the Palestinians.. They are doing good that they have the UNRWA UNDP USAID all are suppporting and building institutions, providing fuel, food&#8230; despite that USA and EUROPE governments are the reason of the Palestinians vagrancy and the Israeli occupation .</p>
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