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	<title>Comments on: McCain Adviser Dismisses Evidence Of Bush&#8217;s Iraq Dishonesty As &#8216;Conspiracy Theories&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: brick</title>
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		<dc:creator>brick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Kagan wants to &quot;move beyond this silly conversation&quot; about the decision to go to war, but it&#039;s a supremely important conversation that asks, &quot;What was the true reason we went to war?&quot; Not only does the answer expose the veracity (or lack thereof) in Bush&#039;s public arguments, but it&#039;s essential to know that real reason in order to gauge the &quot;success&quot; or &quot;failure&quot; (&quot;victory&quot; or &quot;defeat,&quot; if you will) of the enterprise.

Did Bush, as Kagan implies, really believe the hype about WMD? Did he think Hussein was stupid enough to turn such weapons over to an Islamist terror group that might turn around and use it in Iraq? Did Bush want to rescue his father&#039;s tarnished legacy over an unfinished war or avenge Hussein&#039;s call for Daddy Bush&#039;s assassination? Was control of oil the subtext for the war? Was he pursuing the Wolfowitz thesis of trying to establish a model democracy in the Middle East? That is, to empower the Arab man in the street by showing him &quot;a better way&quot; than terrorism?

I&#039;ve always believed it was the &quot;model democracy&quot; argument and that the Bush administration never had that much faith in the WMD story. He&#039;d have never gotten his war if he had told the American people he wanted to invade Iraq and start a &quot;laboratory for democracy and peace.&quot; Propagandizing the WMD and conflating Iraq with 9/11 was more effective with the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Kagan wants to &#8220;move beyond this silly conversation&#8221; about the decision to go to war, but it&#8217;s a supremely important conversation that asks, &#8220;What was the true reason we went to war?&#8221; Not only does the answer expose the veracity (or lack thereof) in Bush&#8217;s public arguments, but it&#8217;s essential to know that real reason in order to gauge the &#8220;success&#8221; or &#8220;failure&#8221; (&#8221;victory&#8221; or &#8220;defeat,&#8221; if you will) of the enterprise.</p>
<p>Did Bush, as Kagan implies, really believe the hype about WMD? Did he think Hussein was stupid enough to turn such weapons over to an Islamist terror group that might turn around and use it in Iraq? Did Bush want to rescue his father&#8217;s tarnished legacy over an unfinished war or avenge Hussein&#8217;s call for Daddy Bush&#8217;s assassination? Was control of oil the subtext for the war? Was he pursuing the Wolfowitz thesis of trying to establish a model democracy in the Middle East? That is, to empower the Arab man in the street by showing him &#8220;a better way&#8221; than terrorism?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always believed it was the &#8220;model democracy&#8221; argument and that the Bush administration never had that much faith in the WMD story. He&#8217;d have never gotten his war if he had told the American people he wanted to invade Iraq and start a &#8220;laboratory for democracy and peace.&#8221; Propagandizing the WMD and conflating Iraq with 9/11 was more effective with the public.</p>
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		<title>By: ctcadguy</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/28/mccain-adviser-dismisses-evidence-of-bushs-iraq-dishonesty-as-conspiracy-theories/comment-page-1/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator>ctcadguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about investigating 911 already. Too many unanswered questions.

The 911 Comission was not tasked to find out who did 911, they presumed 19 arabs with boxcutters defeated the FBI, CIA, NSA, US Air Force and the state and local police departments.

911=Inside job
Anthrax Attacks=Inside job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about investigating 911 already. Too many unanswered questions.</p>
<p>The 911 Comission was not tasked to find out who did 911, they presumed 19 arabs with boxcutters defeated the FBI, CIA, NSA, US Air Force and the state and local police departments.</p>
<p>911=Inside job<br />
Anthrax Attacks=Inside job</p>
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		<title>By: fletc3her</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/28/mccain-adviser-dismisses-evidence-of-bushs-iraq-dishonesty-as-conspiracy-theories/comment-page-1/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>fletc3her</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the assertion that the Bush administration had the same information as previous administrations is that in the year leading up to the Iraq war the intensity of investigations by the United Nations increased significantly.  In particular, Hans Blix secured the Hussein administrations cooperation in a much more complete investigation of potential WMD sites that had ever been conducted previously.  When other nations saw the results of the United Nation&#039;s investigations they changed their opinion.  This is a large factor in why France and other nations did not endorse the Iraq war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the assertion that the Bush administration had the same information as previous administrations is that in the year leading up to the Iraq war the intensity of investigations by the United Nations increased significantly.  In particular, Hans Blix secured the Hussein administrations cooperation in a much more complete investigation of potential WMD sites that had ever been conducted previously.  When other nations saw the results of the United Nation&#8217;s investigations they changed their opinion.  This is a large factor in why France and other nations did not endorse the Iraq war.</p>
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