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	<title>Comments on: What McCain Forgot: Health Insurance Bureaucrats Are Already In Your Doctor&#8217;s Office</title>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/health-insurance-bureaucrats/comment-page-1/#comment-2274</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guffawed when John McCon spewed his government bureaucrat line.  I have multiple corporate bureaucrats doing the job already.  If I want to see a specialist, one pencil pusher must give permission.  Getting prescriptions requires a pharmacy benefit manager, otherwise known as an Rx corporate bureaucrat.  

Give it a rest John.  You&#039;re greasing the skids for me to pay it all.  The corporate crats aren&#039;t going anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guffawed when John McCon spewed his government bureaucrat line.  I have multiple corporate bureaucrats doing the job already.  If I want to see a specialist, one pencil pusher must give permission.  Getting prescriptions requires a pharmacy benefit manager, otherwise known as an Rx corporate bureaucrat.  </p>
<p>Give it a rest John.  You&#8217;re greasing the skids for me to pay it all.  The corporate crats aren&#8217;t going anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: cc2</title>
		<link>http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/health-insurance-bureaucrats/comment-page-1/#comment-2270</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the myth about government interference amazing.  Certainly it can happen but as a practical matter, in Canada, my family has never had any interaction from government in any medical matter.  This is not because of great health.  There has been cancer, heart conditions, etc.  The doctor / hospital makes all decisions, presumably within some guidance of approved procedures but never have we had a doctor even hint that anything would be an issue with government limitation.  One hears that some experimental, very expensive drugs are not approved, etc. but never have I heard of limitations on routine or essential services.  People complain of line ups, waiting lists.  There are issues, far fewer than Americans are told by insurance lobbyists wanting to prevent a loss of this gold mine for them.  In fact, an emerging area of coverage here is premium care, private coverage to address issues of waiting lists or new or unconventional procedures.  There is room for those wanting to get exceptional treatment at their expense.  The proof of the merits of our approach is in the superior health statistics for Canadians relative to Americans.  McCain and others are scamming you by hiding the denial of care behind phony issues of freedom.  In Canada, it is not the government providing the care, it is government paying the cost of care provided by hospital corporations, doctor owned clinics, etc. and of course using my taxes to do so, much more efficiently and far cheaper than your system of profit driven denial of service by heartless companies.  The stupid argument that this is socialist is as dumb as arguing basic education should be private, road maintenance in front of my house should be private, or victims of rape should pay for their rape kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the myth about government interference amazing.  Certainly it can happen but as a practical matter, in Canada, my family has never had any interaction from government in any medical matter.  This is not because of great health.  There has been cancer, heart conditions, etc.  The doctor / hospital makes all decisions, presumably within some guidance of approved procedures but never have we had a doctor even hint that anything would be an issue with government limitation.  One hears that some experimental, very expensive drugs are not approved, etc. but never have I heard of limitations on routine or essential services.  People complain of line ups, waiting lists.  There are issues, far fewer than Americans are told by insurance lobbyists wanting to prevent a loss of this gold mine for them.  In fact, an emerging area of coverage here is premium care, private coverage to address issues of waiting lists or new or unconventional procedures.  There is room for those wanting to get exceptional treatment at their expense.  The proof of the merits of our approach is in the superior health statistics for Canadians relative to Americans.  McCain and others are scamming you by hiding the denial of care behind phony issues of freedom.  In Canada, it is not the government providing the care, it is government paying the cost of care provided by hospital corporations, doctor owned clinics, etc. and of course using my taxes to do so, much more efficiently and far cheaper than your system of profit driven denial of service by heartless companies.  The stupid argument that this is socialist is as dumb as arguing basic education should be private, road maintenance in front of my house should be private, or victims of rape should pay for their rape kit.</p>
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