Comments on: Is Sarah Palin A Creationist? http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:42:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Oliver Face http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-28768 Oliver Face Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:54:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-28768 The concept at issue here are the words 'separation between Religion and Government. The Church and State phrase is not in the constitution. It refers to no religious test being required for public office. Which is exactly what is being done to Sarah Palin. Liberals say she doesn't pass their religious test. Hold her to her political views but don't attack her beliefs. Remember Obama claims he's a Christian so he probably believes the same things as Palin and insulting his religion would be racist. The concept at issue here are the words ’separation between Religion and Government. The Church and State phrase is not in the constitution. It refers to no religious test being required for public office. Which is exactly what is being done to Sarah Palin. Liberals say she doesn’t pass their religious test. Hold her to her political views but don’t attack her beliefs. Remember Obama claims he’s a Christian so he probably believes the same things as Palin and insulting his religion would be racist.

]]> By: Mark http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-15694 Mark Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:44:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-15694 Sarah Palin is a dork - therefore, she supports creationism. (For 'dork', refer to dealings over environmental destruction v money in Alaska.) Sarah Palin is a dork – therefore, she supports creationism. (For ‘dork’, refer to dealings over environmental destruction v money in Alaska.)

]]> By: xtremepado http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2430 xtremepado Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:45:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2430 two words...carbon dating two words…carbon dating

]]> By: xtremepado http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2428 xtremepado Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:41:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2428 @pattychat I would like to know where you learned all that rubbish and which "scientific field" you have a masters degree in. Since the evidence for creationism is "vastly overwhelming", could you please explain one way in which evolution is flawed? I eagerly await your response Alex @pattychat
I would like to know where you learned all that rubbish and which “scientific field” you have a masters degree in. Since the evidence for creationism is “vastly overwhelming”, could you please explain one way in which evolution is flawed?
I eagerly await your response
Alex

]]> By: pattychat http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2416 pattychat Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:57:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2416 I heard via a Michael on Larry King Live last night that Gov. Palin "does not believe in evolution and thinks the earth is 6,000 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" MY, the audacity!!!! (Excuse the sarcasm.) If we are guaranteed freedom of speech in this country, YOU THINK freedom of thought and reason and opinion might have, and does, come first? I'm so glad my country was founded upon the reasons and virtues listed in the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. AND it sounds to me like Sarah Palin would have dared to think, speak, and act outside the same box AND would have been on the Mayflower AND help draft those documents. I'm, also, THRILLED beyond words to know a candidate running for VP MAY BE a creationist. (Although, I haven't heard a quote saying that.) I happen to be one myself, and have studied both sides of the argument for a very long time. And actually ANYONE who HAS STUDIED BOTH knows that the evidence for creation is overwhelming and ABSOLUTELY SOLID. And, sorry, but because it IS scientific, I agree that it should receive EQUAL weight in the schools. (Maybe it's the people who believe in the Theory of Evolution who are AFRAID of information.) All of the theorIES within evolution are just that. The easiest (shortest) one to argue is to acknowledge/observe that ANY species when left to itself progresses from SPECIFIC to LESS SPECIFIC. That alone is a no-brainer, easy enough for anyone to grasp AND IS INCOMPATIBLE with "THE THEORY". I have my masters in a scientific field and my husband is an MD. I know what sound scientific reasoning is. Next time you go to the Dr. be glad that his/her course of action is (1) not based on a THEORY which is (2) based on a FALSE ASSUMPTION (3) SUBSTANTIATED BY CIRCULAR REASONING.... like the Theory of Evolution. And don't you dare pooh-pooh creation of the earth or humans until you HAVE studied it. Then if you choose to still believe in the THEORY of Evolution, I will commend you for having even more faith than I do. In the meantime, YOU GO SARAH PALIN AND OTHERS WHO DARE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES............. AND........... TO LET IT BE KNOWN! PS, grob760, To think that dinosaurs and humans could not have existed at the same time would be equal to thinking that should tigers or elephants ever be extinct, our descendants would conclude that surely WE never co-existed. Now does your view on that fall under "gibberish", "brain-washed teachings", "ignorance", or lack of "brainpower"? Or, oh! Maybe YOU'RE a "construction worker". Well, I think it would be another case of faulty human reasoning. But maybe they could even base a NEW theory on it, huh? Like, prove we were obviously as fast as tigers and as big as elephants. I heard via a Michael on Larry King Live last night that Gov. Palin “does not believe in evolution and thinks the earth is 6,000 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” MY, the audacity!!!!
(Excuse the sarcasm.)
If we are guaranteed freedom of speech in this country, YOU THINK freedom of thought and reason and opinion might have, and does, come first? I’m so glad my country was founded upon the reasons and virtues listed in the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. AND it sounds to me like Sarah Palin would have dared to think, speak, and act outside the same box AND would have been on the Mayflower AND help draft those documents.

I’m, also, THRILLED beyond words to know a candidate running for VP MAY BE a creationist. (Although, I haven’t heard a quote saying that.) I happen to be one myself, and have studied both sides of the argument for a very long time. And actually ANYONE who HAS STUDIED BOTH knows that the evidence for creation is overwhelming and ABSOLUTELY SOLID. And, sorry, but because it IS scientific, I agree that it should receive EQUAL weight in the schools. (Maybe it’s the people who believe in the Theory of Evolution who are AFRAID of information.)

All of the theorIES within evolution are just that. The easiest (shortest) one to argue is to acknowledge/observe that ANY species when left to itself progresses from SPECIFIC to LESS SPECIFIC. That alone is a no-brainer, easy enough for anyone to grasp AND IS INCOMPATIBLE with “THE THEORY”.

I have my masters in a scientific field and my husband is an MD. I know what sound scientific reasoning is. Next time you go to the Dr. be glad that his/her course of action is (1) not based on a THEORY which is (2) based on a FALSE ASSUMPTION (3) SUBSTANTIATED BY CIRCULAR REASONING…. like the Theory of Evolution.

And don’t you dare pooh-pooh creation of the earth or humans until you HAVE studied it. Then if you choose to still believe in the THEORY of Evolution, I will commend you for having even more faith than I do.
In the meantime, YOU GO SARAH PALIN AND OTHERS WHO DARE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES…………. AND……….. TO LET IT BE KNOWN!

PS, grob760, To think that dinosaurs and humans could not have existed at the same time would be equal to thinking that should tigers or elephants ever be extinct, our descendants would conclude that surely WE never co-existed. Now does your view on that fall under “gibberish”, “brain-washed teachings”, “ignorance”, or lack of “brainpower”? Or, oh! Maybe YOU’RE a “construction worker”. Well, I think it would be another case of faulty human reasoning. But maybe they could even base a NEW theory on it, huh? Like, prove we were obviously as fast as tigers and as big as elephants.

]]> By: grob760 http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2292 grob760 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:46:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2292 first off walkertxrobin, let me start by saying your the exact type of person our country needs to rid itself of. you say do your research?? your gibberish about the definition of science is a joke. Ask why you dont see a monkey turn into a human? are u kidding me? have u not read one sentence about evolution??? WERE TALKING THOUSANDS, HUNDRED THOUSANDS of years. maybe if your mind wasen't so closed from the brainwashed teachings you've been fed in church from a young age, you might be able to educate yourself. your so called called belief is nothing but breeder of ignorance. and if you believed that dinosaurs and humans lived together as the dominant species on earth you might aswell become a construction worker or something in manual labor becuase you obviously don't have the brainpower for a intellectual life. sorry if i sound harsh but i'm being completely honest..... and you have the audacity to say do your research???? followed by that non-sense about?? O-M-G... no pun intended first off walkertxrobin, let me start by saying your the exact type of person our country needs to rid itself of. you say do your research?? your gibberish about the definition of science is a joke. Ask why you dont see a monkey turn into a human? are u kidding me? have u not read one sentence about evolution??? WERE TALKING THOUSANDS, HUNDRED THOUSANDS of years. maybe if your mind wasen’t so closed from the brainwashed teachings you’ve been fed in church from a young age, you might be able to educate yourself. your so called called belief is nothing but breeder of ignorance. and if you believed that dinosaurs and humans lived together as the dominant species on earth you might aswell become a construction worker or something in manual labor becuase you obviously don’t have the brainpower for a intellectual life. sorry if i sound harsh but i’m being completely honest….. and you have the audacity to say do your research???? followed by that non-sense about?? O-M-G… no pun intended

]]> By: walkertxrobin http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2278 walkertxrobin Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:55:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2278 <strong>Is information so bad. Yes, it is a "theory"-please do your research. While the Russians were far ahead of America in the educational structure of their children our preseident at </strong><strong>that time decided to adopt their teaching on evolution in order to improve our military. YES! You know what racist had adopted Darwins THEORY? Hitler, thats where Americans got it from...and did you know that Darwin is also a white supremists. Does anyone know what the definition for science is? systematized knowledge as an object of study (the word study meaning observed!) Has anyone ever observed a money turning into a human? Have you ever seen a human with a gorilla ear? Any pictures of this? Yes christians do believe in dinasaurs. They were present before the flood. They have lungs smaller than humans!!? Why you ask? Because the oxygen content in the earth was greater than now! Why? because there was a HUGE canope of water covering the earth untill the flood. Thats also why men lived longer. Do some research before you believe everything you are taught in this one country in this one earth in this whole big world. Fact is debatable, truth is straight up truth.</strong> Is information so bad. Yes, it is a “theory”-please do your research. While the Russians were far ahead of America in the educational structure of their children our preseident at that time decided to adopt their teaching on evolution in order to improve our military. YES! You know what racist had adopted Darwins THEORY? Hitler, thats where Americans got it from…and did you know that Darwin is also a white supremists. Does anyone know what the definition for science is? systematized knowledge as an object of study (the word study meaning observed!) Has anyone ever observed a money turning into a human? Have you ever seen a human with a gorilla ear? Any pictures of this? Yes christians do believe in dinasaurs. They were present before the flood. They have lungs smaller than humans!!? Why you ask? Because the oxygen content in the earth was greater than now! Why? because there was a HUGE canope of water covering the earth untill the flood. Thats also why men lived longer. Do some research before you believe everything you are taught in this one country in this one earth in this whole big world. Fact is debatable, truth is straight up truth.

]]> By: Mugsy http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2114 Mugsy Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:33:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2114 To those who say "teach both <em>in our public schools</em>", I say "why stop there? "Why not <em>teach both</em> <strong>in Sunday school</strong> as well?" "You know, don’t be afraid of information." To those who say “teach both in our public schools“, I say “why stop there? “Why not teach both in Sunday school as well?”

“You know, don’t be afraid of information.”

]]> By: fletc3her http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/comment-page-1/#comment-2106 fletc3her Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:54:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/29/palin-creationist/#comment-2106 I find it hard to imagine that anyone who believes the dinosaurs are a hoax could be the leader of this nation. At a time when we need clear leadership on issues ranging from global warming to stem cell research we need someone in the White House who understands science. I find it hard to imagine that anyone who believes the dinosaurs are a hoax could be the leader of this nation. At a time when we need clear leadership on issues ranging from global warming to stem cell research we need someone in the White House who understands science.

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